Software Mixing

[Hallucinogen]

Originally Posted by Margoss

if you want to be taken seriously, 1) get rid of the color, 2) spell properly, and 3) bring some actual arguments. otherwise you're making a joke out of yourself.

I couldn't care less to be taken SERIOUSLY by JOKERS like YOURSELF, fool:p You make me laugh, thx!

-> GO Back to teh silly BATMAN movie! PWND

[Hallucinogen]

Originally Posted by Hexfire

Of course no.
If it was like that, we'd have ended up having every third person being a dj, which of course is sheer bull. To be a DJ does require something more relevant than setting up a pirate software, applying horrible mixing with a bunch of random pirate tracks and exporting an mp3.

You seem to be OVER-JELOUS, and MAJORLY MISLEAD mai Russian KOMRAD :D but thats not surprising.

[shadowankh]

Don't really care how it is mixed as long as it's done properly and there are good tracks.

Furthermore I don't think many people hear the difference.

[davebugyi]

Originally Posted by shadowankh

Don't really care how it is mixed as long as it's done properly and there are good tracks.

Furthermore I don't think many people hear the difference.

Agree.
IMO, everybody is a DJ, who makes a mix (whether using software or hardware) - and the quality is decent.

[Khourshid]

Yet software gives you more attention to the other details you wouldnt be capable to notice or manage to do with hardware, you know rather doing...lets say 5 steps you do 3 steps with more concentration; so you get a better final product at the end.

[maxx35007]

you guys got a real point brewing here, i do a podcast and you ableton but i also spin in clubs, its tru that its all about the finished product but with software you dont have to have any skill just the abilityl to learn HOW to mix, if i were to tech someone to make a mix on software it would take about 5 hours, but with decks it can take years to perfect it!!

[Junior]

Originally Posted by dfx

goa gil does that too

i thought noboy knew who he was, he has good stuff.

but i use Virtual Dj, ive made two sets so far, both sound way different, transitinos sound very different also, software programs is for starters i guess. once you have a good feeling for it you can go pro with the real things. but if you have a good set and nice choons that everyone likes, it doesnt matter what you use

[dj_solsta]

Originally Posted by Roysie

I've been to a club in belfast called "shine"
(alot of progressive and tech stuff is payed there, good club)

The dj was mixing entirely from his laptop..
The dancefloor was pumping
U gotta stick with the times, and computers are as much the future as they are the present.

I think using a "program" to mix "live" to an audience, would therefore enable the person to be called a "DJ".

I agree....Its about the music....at least 90 Percent of the time, the crowd has no idea what the dj is using in the first place..they couldn't be bothered if it was vinyl or CDJ or software...they just love what he is doing with the music...
Just cos its easier to use software doesn't mean it is selling out...Software is making it easier for people who love music to express themselves easily and without burning holes in their pockets....You don't have to do it the hard way to appreciate it.....Long Live Trance!!!

[dj_solsta]

also if u do it "live" then "DJ" is an appropriate term...

[t4e]

Recently I had the chance to tour with Delerium, where we played theaters and ballrooms across the US and Canada rather than the usual DJ booths in clubs. It was a refreshing change, but also an important reminder that you need to keep your live shows fresh and interesting. Crowds want to see a compelling performance—watching some well-coiffed chubster spinning on a pair of CDJs really isn’t that exciting. The beauty of the software world, when paired with a hardware controller, is that you can change your setup to suit your tastes. You’re not married to the effects on your DJ mixer, and you can piece together your dream mixer from scratch—making changes on the plane or in the hotel room minutes before a gig. Everyone does it differently, and most people immediately take off the preset overlay and stash it with the manual, so I wanted to share some tips and techniques on how to spice up your rig.

My DJ setup consists of an Allen & Heath Xone 3D mixer and Ableton Live 7 software. Make the jump for some ways I set things up for my shows…

Morgan Page | BPM Magazine

[dfx]

i think clicking around on a laptop is even less exciting though

overall i disagree with that statement though. people want to hear good music - the "performance" itself is only second important.

[Lazarus]

It's a tricky one really, but I voted no. Personally I think software mixing has more in common with production than actual DJing.

That's not to say it's not a valid way of doing things, it's just different. Pre-mixing sets with software lacks the spontenaity of live DJ-ing though, I reckon, but it does iron out the annoying technical errors you get since you can go back on yourself and redo bits you got wrong - a luxury you don't get as a DJ! Similarly you can mix a set whilst lying on the sofa watching TV - again, a luxury you don't get as a DJ

Ultimately I know it's the music and not the medium that counts, but I remember seeing Adam Sheridan do an Ableton set a couple of years ago. Sounded great, nice skills, but he was so busy concentrating that didn't look up from his laptop at the crowd once.

Later that night, Alex MORPH played using CDJs. His mixing was a bit off but he was leaping around like a maniac, shaking hands with the clubbers, loving every second, and he tore the roof off the place. I still rate it as one of my top 5 sets I've seen live in a club.

For me though, when I'm a clubber or a listener, the medium is irrelevant so long as tune selection is spot on. As a DJ though, I rate the mediums like this:

• Mixing with vinyl on 1210's feels like operating machinery
• Mixing with CDs on CDJs feels like fiddling with the stereo
• Mixing with software on a laptop feels like being at work

[Allan Affinity]

depend of how you use the software. i think djs using software with auto bmp syncronization () may be less talented than a dj who beatmatches itself in hearphone. Beatmatching is the best skill of a dj, if you can't beatmatch you are not so good. Obviously you must have other qualtity if you aim to be best dj of the world

there are also program in which you put the songs in the tracklist, you align them, deciding what kind of transition use and the application makes all itself: even who doesn't know anything about bmp, beatmaching, loop,.... can be a "dj". it's unfair.

i'm very very beginner dj: i use hercules dj control with djdecks: the only automation i use are: loop and the autobmp that is NOT auto beatmatching: it only make the two tracks go at the same bmp (yes, yes i know that maths is not an opinion, but if i count myslef a song going @ 138bmp seems to me going @ 140bmp... ) . i make the beatmaching with the headphone and the PRACTICE .

DJing is an ART: DON'T use software that make all the work while you only sit on a chair watching and waiting the program finishes to compile your mix...

[nowillpower]

DJing is a state of mind regardless of the tool used......Do we not all use software to make Music???? So why not in the MIX???

I've watched this argument rage.........and to be honest why?

Should we not be welcoming the new wave of talent and showcasing the new ability to manipulate the latest music and provide the best show for all fans regardless of the hardware or software?

Please remember the old argument vinyl vs cd's?? and look what happened?

So now it has changed to cdj's vs software?? answers on a postcard please lol!!!

Personally I have had all 3 system (2x 1210's mk3 Pioneer DJM800) then moved to 2 x CDJ1000's.....now I run traktor 3.2.2 with or without the mixer.....and the results are amazing the new software rocks!!!!

So my vote goes with the software!!! It's a new art form and new style of DJ'ing with alot more control......

The big thing is guys and girls is cost!!!!

Hardware costs vs Software costs.....you can all do the maths???

I think software will not doubt win because of cost, simplicity and functionality bottom line....but don't take my word for it LOL !!! only time will tell...

And for all you's guys/girls that are still stayin true to old Skool vinyl....give software a go!!!

You'll neva know unless you give it try???

[PhillipAlpha]

the more advanced and "easy" tools the more it demands of actual booth presence, crowd interaction etc ..

saw Ronski @ ASOT400 - what he didnt have in techinical abilites and super tight mixing - he had in an outstanding boothpresence - he was insane - was by far one of the best booth performances i've ever seen