Which Pioneer mixer is better? - Page 2

Sasha Pidann · 13-01-2009, 08:00 AM

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Originally Posted by PhillipAlpha

trashcan?

i just personally prefer "the rest of the world" over 600

Interesting...could you please elaborate a little further what your grievances are with DJM600? I have never EVER seen anything else installed in a club before except for RODEC which is very popular in Belgium, but 600 is pretty much a standard. And for a reason, although like our friend quoted earlier he really likes his 800 model - its a little too expensive for what it is. (Just get a EFX-1000 and 600 and you are better than on par), but 600 is a good value, descent sound, very easy to use, and has really good built quality. So my question is why do you think it belongs in a trash can? And you prefer "everything" over 600? The only complain i have is the crossfader is not tight enough, but seeing how most people on here don't really scratch thats no problem. i know its a personal preference, but im just not sure what you have a problem with when it comes to this great mixer. So please, tell us all what we should invest in? Before we throw our money into a trashcan

/uses korg zero8

dfx · 13-01-2009, 02:15 PM

thanks for posting this, exactly my thoughts, just couldnt be bothered to actually post this

PhillipAlpha · 13-01-2009, 02:16 PM

The sound of the 600 is not superb - and that to me is more important than a tonnes of FX

PhillipAlpha · 13-01-2009, 02:16 PM

and preffering all over the 600 is only when talking Pioneer mixers

again - i'd buy 400 - 700 or 800 over the 600 - cause they have better sound

Sasha Pidann · 13-01-2009, 06:36 PM

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Originally Posted by PhillipAlpha

and preffering all over the 600 is only when talking Pioneer mixers

again - i'd buy 400 - 700 or 800 over the 600 - cause they have better sound

Hey, thanks for the response PhillipAlpha!

I agree that 800 has better sound (in theory!), but that is because when sound is send through it, it is digitized through an A/D converter and then its all digital sound is the output. But look at the price difference! and DJM400 is 2 channel (last time i checked vs 4 channel 600) and is also all digital, That is pretty much the only difference in sound output those have (to my understanding - correct me if im wrong please). I have no idea what kind of preAMP you have, but if you must have a CRAZY ONE if you can really hear the difference. Can you honestly say you can? Really? As far as function, availability, ease of use and overall package goes - 600 is not a bad choice. A good choice even in my opinion. It can be purchased cheaply from ebay if you are stricken for cash and will not cost you an arm and a leg; a used 600 will set you back around $650 vs $1400 for a used 800, so comparison is not quite accurate. And ive never used a DJM400 before so i will just take your word for it!

Your response reminds me of an "old skool" DJ buddy of mine who was completely CONVINCED that vinyl is the only medium to spin just because it has SUPERIOR SOUND to those crappy little CDs with their non-analog sound. when sound is loud enough man, NO ONE can tell the difference outside your bedroom or studio. (I actually think CDs sound better since you can level out the volume before you burn, plus no clicking or background noise due to bad ground

)

So value = 600
Sound quality = 800 (if you have supersonic hearing)

in my opinion of course...

You are not wrong by any account my friend, don't think i'm arguing with you - its just not fair to say djm600 is garbage worthy according to you. Someone who does not know may take your overreaction as the gospel truth, and think it sounds like a Behringer, the truth is, its a very solid mixer for the money.

cheers!

PhillipAlpha · 13-01-2009, 10:14 PM

fun fact - Behringer ripped off the 600 - and made the DJX-700 - which soundwise is better and cheaper than the 600

- but without the same fx - and the reliability of a papyrus found in a pyramid

you can hear it in the high frequencies - on neutral monitors - most speakers atm is not sound neutral - not even the DJ headphones are

- but when i listen my liverecordings @ home - i can hear the flaws of the 600 - there are even ppl out there that doesent believe that 192 kbps mp3 - is just as good 320

- and you can hear its not. ideally all should have wav - but as we all know lossless formats arent exactly small

dfx · 13-01-2009, 10:20 PM

lol @ behringer being better than pioneer

PhillipAlpha · 14-01-2009, 03:48 AM

dfx> soundwise yeah - usability & sound combined the 600 would win - hands down - but soundwise the behringer is better in the higher frequencies than a 600

oh and i just love your whole attitude dfx

PhillipAlpha · 14-01-2009, 03:52 AM

btw - uhm.. the whole argument for the 400 is - you pretty much only use 2 channels anyway

Ajs82 · 15-01-2009, 02:20 PM

DJM 800 all the way, midi controller does it for me

apocalypse_now · 16-01-2009, 12:45 AM

When I started to look for DJ gear I came across the DJM-400 and I've been hell bent on getting this mixer for myself; what really caught my eye was the World's First In-Loop Sampler. But today I came across the Numark 5000FX mixer which has a sampler and some similar effects. Can anyone give me some insight?? all opinions are greatly appreciated.
Keep in mind that I do not have any DJ gear yet nor have I ever really done any beatmatching.

Jon e bass · 16-01-2009, 01:17 AM

500 here but would like to get 800 too, or just go allen & heath....4 eq's/channel.. muahhhaaa.....

Sasha Pidann · 16-01-2009, 08:55 PM

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Originally Posted by apocalypse_now

When I started to look for DJ gear I came across the DJM-400 and I've been hell bent on getting this mixer for myself; what really caught my eye was the World's First In-Loop Sampler. But today I came across the Numark 5000FX mixer which has a sampler and some similar effects. Can anyone give me some insight?? all opinions are greatly appreciated.
Keep in mind that I do not have any DJ gear yet nor have I ever really done any beatmatching.

no gear before? i might be bias but get Kong Zero8. Don't take my word for it, research it; read some reviews, watch some videos... you know the drill ;)

tubby · 08-04-2009, 01:17 AM

they are a bit different mixers. 3000 is 19" 4 channel, vs small 2 channel.
the 3000 improves a little on the sound of the 600, but the 400/700/800 are much better.
the 400 suffers a little from the lack of balanced outputs if you are using it in a club system, 3000 has 1/4" and xlr as well as rca outputs.
effects on both are about the same, both beat sync'd, but the 400 does not have an fx loop, so if you want to use other effects they can only be on one channel or the master out.

I had the 3000 for about 6 years, never had an issue with it, bought the rotary kit and loved that though the fader curve could have been better. was a well laid out and nice ot use mixer. I only sold it as I wanted to move to something different so bought a midi mixer

Tranceroute · 13-06-2009, 12:07 AM

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Originally Posted by PhillipAlpha

for Pioneer mixers it goes like this:

Bedroom: DJM-400
Club: 800>1000>700

Why The DJM-400 only for bedroom, you cant use them for a real mix or a party? Im a rookie on this and im goin to study ofr djying so i want to know